“hold off, So is this a night out together?” Podcast Episode 206: star Crushes | Autostraddle

It absolutely was my cousin’s consider pick the flick at Blockbuster and she’d picked

A Stroll to keep in mind

. “Sorry. This will be a woman flick,” my personal mommy warned. As soon as we got house and watched it a family, i did not reveal my rips. Or my need. I did not admit that We liked the movie and, furthermore, adored the lead. The season ended up being 2002 and between Mandy Moore contained in this motion picture and Avril Lavigne delivering the woman first record, I’d found the 2 forms of star crushes that will haunt with the rest of my youth.

Star crushes indicate more to queer folks than they actually do to straight people. They can be all of our first expressions of queer desire or the very first expressions of gender jealousy. They could be a safe destination to experiment cravings that aren’t ready when it comes down to real life.

That is why this week we are speaking with journalist and podcaster Jordan Crucchiola exactly about celebrity crushes. We discuss how star thirsting seems comprehensive to Jordan as a panromantic grey asexual person. We mention how I think almost all of my personal celebrity crushes tend to be variety of attainable. And, however, we mention the famous older ladies on Christina’s drinking water package.

But initially! Christina quizzes myself on an interest i am aware little about — lesbian love books

SHOW NOTES

+ the true relationship novels referenced within our online game had been:

The X Ingredient

,

Breaking Personality

,

Resort Queens

,

Payback’s a Witch

, and

The Brutal Facts

.

+ My research for two fans sharing a wall:

+ Christina’s reference for just two fans discussing a wall:

+ listed below are each of Jordan Crucchiola’s podcasts:

Straightforward Podcast

The Entire Movie Podcast

Aughtsterion

Problem Ladies

Feeling Noticed

+ My popular

Euphoria

recaps
.

+ If just like me, you have got not a clue exactly who Lindsay Shookus is,
listed here is a timeline
of the woman commitment with Mr. Jennifer Lopez.

+ This is very daring of me, because Really don’t recall every thing I typed on my Tumblr, but here is a hyperlink to
my personal Nicole Kidman project
.

+

The

Angelina Jolie Moving Stone cover
.

+ a note to view

P-Valley

and also to read
Natalie’s protection
.

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EPISODE

Jordan:

Literally anytime Jennifer Connelly’s face jumped up on display screen, each time I just went, “Oh, God.”

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Jordan:

Like, audibly. We, like, gasped and “Oh, God,” like every fucking time.

[theme song performs]

Drew:

Hi, I’m Drew.

Christina:

And I Also’m Christina.

Drew:

And introducing Hold Off, So Is This A Date?.

Christina:

You are sure that, Wait, Is This a night out together? is actually an Autostraddle podcast wherein we constantly forget who says exactly what, regardless of what long we have now tape-recorded. Uh, i do believe that’s actually truly breathtaking. And my headphones just dropped quickly my mind. Therefore.

Drew:

So a stronger s—, powerful begin.

Christina:

A very good begin. But generally, it’s a podcast about online dating and, like, figuring out what relationship is actually just in case we all know how to get it done, just like we ascertain easily learn how to keep my headsets on my really head.

Drew:

Which is fantastic. Um, my name is Drew Gregory. I’m (laughs) I am, uh… Or do you really… But did you wish us to live on that longer? I am obtaining seems.

Christina:

No, I’m simply home…

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

…on my self.

Drew:

Great.

Christina:

It’s best if you talk, i do believe. (laughs)

Drew:

Correct. Um, uh, my name is Drew Gregory. I am a filmmaker and a writer for Autostraddle. I’m a queer trans girl as well. Those tend to be identification tags that i’ve. Christina?

Christina:

Yes, definitely. I’m Christina Tucker. I will be in addition a writer at Autostraddle and a podcaster. And genuinely, this thirty days i have actually just already been like a girl about town. I really just been like—

Drew:

Mm.

Christina:

—woman in particular, largely in several—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—beaches, uh, from inside the Jersey Shore.

Drew:

You really have.

Christina:

But nevertheless experiencing really at-large and unique in a way that now we demonstrably feel exhausted by.

Drew:

Sure.

Christina:

I am Black and homosexual, and this rocks for me.

Drew:

I favor that. (laughs)

Christina:

Cool. I am not sure why i am therefore strange now. We, like, have no idea just who Im. What’s going on?

Drew:

Its fine. We’re going to continue goin’.

Christina:

The things I possess, however, Drew, is actually a-game.

Drew:

Mm-hmm. Thank God.

Christina:

And This Also game I’m evaluating your understanding of anything I Understand you do not have lots of information about, and that is—

Drew:

Oh Jesus.

Christina:

–fun. Um, it’s a… it really is labeled as… Really don’t actually have a name for this. We perhaps should’ve considered a name. But fundamentally, I’m going to give you three lesbian romance brands, and you are heading—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—to need let me know do you know the real people regarding the three.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Two We have developed, you’re real. And you’re gonna need certainly to select the actual one and let me know what you think it is more about.

Drew:

Great. Okay.

Christina:

Are you ready?

Drew:

I will be. What outstanding online game.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Here we go. The very first three.

The X Element

,

The It Factor

, and

The reality folks

.

Drew:

Huh. It’s amusing, ’cause might genuinely believe that

The X Ingredient

would in fact be

The X Aspect

combined with

The It Element

, but—

Christina:

Positive.

Drew:

I wanna say… i recently… Oh, i am hoping I am not inadvertently insulting you, but I feel like

The X Element

is the clunkiest, which means you won’t have come up with that. It needs to be actual.

Christina:

You happen to be appropriate. (laughs)

Drew:

Yes.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow, I’m very glad.

Christina:

Precisely what do you believe

The X Element

is all about?

Drew:

Um, i do believe it’s about two lesbians that happen to be exes and find yourself on the same real life cooking reveal that’s sort of like

Chopped

, but, like, somewhere between

Chopped

and

Fantastic British Baking Program

. Like, it is on for a while however it has actually sort of sun and rain of

Chopped

. Um, and they are exes and it… It really is kind of want a… I don’t know if it would count as a foes to enthusiasts since they had been enthusiasts at one-point, but it’s like an exes to straight back collectively.

Christina:

I adore that. In addition like that by asking you to share with me personally what you think these guides go for about, i have merely produced you produce romance plots.

Drew:

I favor it.

Christina:

Which is truly enjoyable. Uh, sadly

The X Element

is obviously, uh, about an assistant exactly who sleeps together with her supervisor. When we began checking out it last week regarding beach, I said, “this is certainly completely a

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic with which has changed into an actual book.” As soon as we let you know we see the

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic, I certain have. So’s a journey.

Drew:

Wait, but exactly why is it labeled as

The X Element

?

Christina:

Well, inside original fanfic, the X component was actually… there clearly was some kind of reason that Miranda had all of the woman assistants, uh, consume her over to orgasm. Um.

Drew:

Wow.

Christina:

Can’t truly keep in mind what the, the storyline, the backstory ,was on that, um, however in the one, contained in this actual published adaptation i ought to say, uh, the X ingredient I guess is actually, I don’t know, only, like, that her associate’s hot and she is similar, “Oh, I am gay today and I wanna have sexual intercourse with her.” Like, I don’t know. The X component is hot.

Drew:

Good enough for my situation. Okay.

Christina:

There you decide to go.

Drew:

Round two.

Christina:

Round two.

Broken Hearts Club

…

Drew:

Uh-huh.

Christina:

…

Breaking Personality

,

Opting for Broke

.

Drew:

Ooh, dozens of seem like they could be actual. I must say I like it to be

Splitting Character

, but I think

Broken Hearts Club

is real.

Christina:

Regrettably,

Broken Hearts Club

just isn’t actual. And happy for your needs,

Busting Character

is actually real.

Drew:

Oh my Jesus, i will’ve just gone using my impulse.

Christina:

Opt for your instinct, girl.

Drew:


Breaking Personality

. Okay, its about a sort of such as the feminine Daniel Day-Lewis, like women actor just who takes her technique behaving really honestly, and she develops a connection along with her co-star. But her co-star, it really is ambiguous both for her co-star and also for the star if the co-star is during really love together or perhaps in really love with her fictional character. And hijinks ensue.

Christina:

Truthfully, that’s not far off from the actual storyline of

Busting Character

, that is indeed about two actresses, one who is, uh, been labeled as a bitch but is not, it is only getting, uh, badmouthed by the woman showrunner because she’s on like a

Grey’s Anatomy

kind health tv show—

Drew:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Christina:

—that features really gone from the rails. The woman fictional character’s the bitch.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

And, uh, her brand-new co-star Summer — you got that right, the woman name is summertime — is very pleasant and delightful. And because really bonkers storyline factors, they have to have a fake relationship. But they’re both homosexual so…

Drew:

So nothing happens. They don’t really develop any thoughts.

Christina:

Yeah, so they really cannot… Yeah, nothing.

Drew:

They never hook up. No.

Christina:

Nothing takes place. They never mention it and they have never gender.

Drew:

Mm-hmm.

Christina:

Yep, that’s precisely what occurs.

Drew:

Sometimes that is how it goes.

Christina:

Okay, your upcoming three.

Resort Queens

,

Media Moguls

, or

Restaurant Monarchs

.

Drew:

Okay, I’m going to follow my impulse and choose the one that I want to end up being real—

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

—and hope that which is genuine.

Hotel Queens

.

Christina:


Hotel Queens

is actually genuine.

Drew:

Wow, I’m destroying it. (laughs)

Christina:

You’re killing this. For a person would you perhaps not review loads of lesbian relationship, uh, it is in your blood, hottie.

Drew:

Okay, i will now say the plot that I hope it really is, though I’m convinced according to my comprehension of posting business this is not the scenario. But i’d like that it is about two participants on a show comparable to, like,

Drag Race

’cause you aren’t truly meant to, love, take each other’s spaces but, you know, they stay static in a resort in the entire recording of this tv series. So they establish, like, a sort of remarkable affair that for some time can’t be consummated, however their areas tend to be near to one another so that they, like, knock-on the wall structure in the middle them and then if they are shooting, there is just like the stress and it is… And yeah, that’s, that’s what I want

Resort Queens

is about.

Christina:

That appears rather hot. Um, that is not what

Resort Queens

means. It’s just about a lady exactly who runs accommodations and, uh, another woman whom operates a competing lodge.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

Whom works best for a fighting hotel sequence as well as, uh—

Drew:

Sure, sure, yes.

Christina:

—quite actually are hotel queens.

Drew:

Sure, sure.

Christina:

But i enjoy that power. I like the slamming on the… Very, uh,

knock 3 x about ceiling if you need me personally

power, that we like.

Drew:

I happened to be referencing

Sunny Superstar

, and that I like our, I like our very own various cultural things, you understand.

Christina:

I really like all of our brains.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

In my opinion brains are very gorgeous.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

Fine,

Paid-in haven

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


The Repayment Plan

.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Oh,

Payback’s a Witch

noise enjoyable. I want with

Payback’s a Witch

.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

. And it is enjoyable ’cause its a proper publication.

Drew:

Cool.

Christina:

Tell me what you think

Payback’s a Witch

concerns.

Drew:

Okay, I Obtained it.

Christina:

Okay.

Drew:

So a new gay witch is actually striving to help make lease during the early months of pandemic.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Together with property owner is like, “No, you must however provide money.” And she is similar, “But have a look, like, all these… you realize, like, you simply can’t evict myself,” and all these various things and like, “You should give me personally a break,” and “It is a pandemic.” Therefore the landlord’s like, “No, i am a landlord. I hate you.”

Therefore next she is like… She goes, “No, I’m a witch,” so then she starts tormenting the property manager. Really Love story isn’t making use of property manager, not an enemies-to-lovers situation because—

Christina:

‘Cause landlords tend to be terrible. Certain. (laughs)

Drew:

But in fact she finds out that her next-door neighbor is a witch and also a lesbian, so they really torment the landlord collectively and belong love in the process. It sort of provides like a Roald Dahl energy, like

The Twits

. Or

Great Mr. Fox

. Like, there’s not truly, like… There’s not some dispute after the original conflict occurs. Like, the two of them only are like, “we are both witches. We’re going to torment this individual exactly who deserves to be tormented.” Immediately after which they’ve gender.

Christina:

That’s in fact truly attractive. Uh,

Payback’s a Witch

is about, alternatively, a female who’s, you thought it, a witch just who comes back to her hometown in which oahu is the only spot that she will carry out magic—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—because there is like a secret pond. She has already been without forces.

Drew:

Fun. Ooh.

Christina:

Um, and she meets a, a girl she had a crush in senior high school. Uh, there’s like a complete a long time, like, mystery world-building thing with the community and also the family members that run the city. They gather. It’s very nice. Fun book,

Payback’s a Witch

.

Drew:

Honestly, of this people at this point, this is the one I would personally the majority of want to study.

Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

is very enjoyable. Uh, there is certainly a follow up to this publication, but it’s unfortuitously about straight men and women. Therefore.

Drew:

Crazy.

Christina:

You victory some, you drop some. All right, here’s our last one.

Trustworthiness and Second Chances

,

Whenever Truth Satisfies Fiction

—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—or

The Brutal Facts

.

Drew:

Ooh. I am gonna go with

When Truth Suits Fiction

.

Christina:

Mm, this is certainly sadly from my personal mind by yourself. Uh,

The Brutal Reality

, however…

Drew:

Fortunately that

The Brutal Reality

and

Whenever Truth Joins Fiction

, I think both are a comparable thing which is—

Christina:

Yeah, they will be.

Drew:

—novel-length fanfiction of

The Morning Show

and of Bradley Jackson along with her truth telling. But we imagine whenever it ended up being released, for copyright factors they did need transform some details. So the woman name is maybe not Bradley Jackson any longer, but it’s equally plotted.

Christina:

That’s a shame because Bradley Jackson is top among the list of best personality brands previously set to report, um, despite how—

Drew:

Completely.

Christina:

—ridiculous every little thing regarding it is actually. But congratulations thereon Emmy nom, Reese.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

(laughs)

The Brutal Truth

is about a media mogul just who takes over a battling report and comes crazy about the crime blogger, who writes—

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

—at the evening. Uh, they’ve got a really sweet coming with each other. The mass media mogul is undoubtedly very mean and like two decades more than she actually is. It is wonderful things.

Drew:

Sure.

Christina:

And I also will, because I care a great deal for the audience, certainly consist of backlinks to of those real publications for the tv show records.

Drew:

Incredible.

Christina:

Plus the rest of them, might return into my brain in which they belong. Additionally, coming up with brands of books… Like I can come up with plots for a romance books all day long. Titles is, like, in fact shockingly challenging.

Drew:

Yeah, you did great.

Christina:

Thank you. I just required that praise.

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

Our very own extremely unique guest is regarded as the best individuals to thirst about famous people with. So special visitor, the trend is to present your self so we will get into star crush talk?

Jordan:

Uh, hello. Hi, Christina. Really a— And Drew. Hello. I, I am Jordan Crucchiola. And when you hear any kind of my podcasts, you may possibly have begun making use of the Easy Podcast that I performed with Christina. So that as we said whenever I signed onto this chat, the past time we were on a pod together ended up being when we were interviewing Blake Lively.

Christina:

And, as I recall, texting feverishly, uh, off-mic—

Jordan:

Yeah.

Christina:

—about wow, Blake Livelyis just in a tiny bit Zoom corner.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

(laughs)

Christina:

There the woman is. She is got a great deal locks. What exactly is happening? She’s talkin’ to us for so long.

Jordan:

Pick God, Blake. Thanks.

Christina:

It actually was untamed occasions. Untamed times.

Jordan:

(laughs)

Drew:

Do you want to state a bit more about who you are?

Jordan:

Sure, sure. Um, I, I wish to declare that Im an individual who enjoys Drew Gregory’s what I think about is definitive

Euphoria

recaps.

Christina:

(laughs)

Drew:

Wow. thank-you.

Jordan:

There was particular one in which, um… since tv series tends to make me therefore exceedingly… Hunter Schafer is actually, uh, an angel from God.

Christina:

Yeah.

Jordan:

While the tv show tends to make myself incredibly uneasy in the way the solitary brain-trust originator, executor, music producer, movie director, writer, gazes upon Hunter.

Christina:

Mm-hmm.

Drew:

Yeah.

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